The Salt & Light Podcast
The Salt & Light podcast offers inspiring and insightful conversations with Fourth Church community partners in Chicagoland and beyond. We talk with leaders who are salt and light in public life by making positive contributions to our city, country, and global community. We explore what inspires and challenges them, as well as what they are learning as we partner together for the common good.
Episodes
Mar 19, 2026
Mar 19, 2026
42 min
Pastor Joe talks with Derek Brown, Coach and Founder of Boxing Out Negativity, a youth development and sports organization on Chicago’s West Side.
Mar 12, 2026
Mar 12, 2026
41 min
Pastor Joe talks with Katherine Wilson, CEO of Deborah’s Place a provider of housing for women who have experienced homelessness.
Mar 5, 2026
Mar 5, 2026
44 min
Pastor Joe talks with Camesha Jones, Founder and Executive Director of the mental health organization Sista Afya serving Chicago’s Southside.
Feb 26, 2026
Feb 26, 2026
47 min
Pastor Joe talks with Carol Sharp, President and CEO of The Night Ministry, providing support and human connection to Chicagoans experiencing homelessness.
Feb 25, 2026
Feb 25, 2026
39 min
Pastor Joe talks with Christa Hamilton, President and CEO of UCAN, which leads transformational interventions so that families and communities can be safe and prosper.
Feb 12, 2026
Feb 12, 2026
45 min
Pastor Joe talks with Ron Bottrell, a congregant who has spent 15 years deploying to disaster sites with Presbyterian Disaster Assistance.